SOMETHING TO TELL THE PEOPLE OF EDMONTON?



Why the gap drivers?

I am all for leaving a bit of room and not pulling right up on the next person when stopped at the lights. But what is with people who leave a couple car lengths?

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Or people who leave a car length in front of them at a light when your first in line? Is there a reason for this?

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People behind a few car may not make a light or be able to pull into the turn lane (and then they block traffic) because of you. Are you scared? Do you need to learn to drive? Really I want to know what is your problem?


SOMETHING TO TELL THE PEOPLE OF EDMONTON?

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    1. I can plant a 140,000 pound Kenworth less than 7 feet off the back bumper of your car or put my motorcycle inches from the bumper and see the back tires. Still cool with either one of those?

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    2. Randall I meant in terms of a four wheeler They should be able to see over over their hood and see the rear tires of the car ahead Your my hero the way you handle that large car Not!

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    3. Ah 4 wheels okay. So we talking the pickups, sports cars or compact sedans that’s I’ve owned where I can see the ground anywhere between 3-5 feet beyond my hood?

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    4. Ah 4 wheels okay. So we talking the pickups, sports cars or compact sedans that’s I’ve owned where I can see the ground anywhere between 3-5 feet beyond my hood?

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    1. It definitely has something to do with where they are sitting and their ability to judge a distance, height of person, size of vehicle etc. Some people think every car that comes 20 feet close to their bumper are more like 10 inches away. They don’t have the ability to judge distances and rearview mirrors confuse the hell out of them too.

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  1. At most intersections there is now a “STOP LINE” You are meant to pull up to or on top of it. Most intersections have special ‘cameras’ hooked to computers, they can sense when cars are waiting and can see approx how many. In some cases sensors are built into those lines. If the car is not in the proper place they are not activated. Soooo, those people not pulling up close enough are both delaying the green light & shortening length of time.

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  2. You know what happens when you don’t leave a ‘cushion’ between you and the other car and some jackass not paying attention rearends you? If you’re too close and many of you are in the shitty damage happens insurance goes up and someone gets hurt. You pull in front if me and take my cushion I will get out and beat the shit out if you.

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    1. There is no reason to leave that much space in front of you, If another car has enough room to pull in front of you , then you are to far back. Safe distance is so that you can see the bottom of their tires with your hood. So if you leave enough room for me to get in front of you , I will.

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    2. Chantell Kay because some people are stupid and getting their ass kicked is the only way they’ll learn. Haha By the sounds of it she actually knows how to drive.

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    3. Bryce Lariviere It all depends on your speed. Like say if you are going 100 then you are saying you should be right at the guy with his tires above your hood? You sound like the average aggressive driving redneck who needs to learn some defensive driving skills.

      If the dude wants to put distance between him and the next car thats his every right in leaving breaking room and mistakes. You cutting in is just showing how much of a douchebag you are.

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    4. Ramin, I believe what Bryce was trying to say is that when you are STOPPED (i.e, at a red light, etc) you should be able to see the bottom of their tires with your hood. This is also taught by driving instructors. Obviously you would not want to be travelling so close to someone at high speeds in case of an accident, there obviously wouldn’t be enough stopping distance.

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    1. But there are pressure pads in the road at many intersections. If you don’t pull up to the line, you don’t get a light. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve been stuck behind some fool who doesn’t pull up to the line and so does not trigger the light.

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  3. Have wondered this myself many times!
    I get you need to leave room but 2-3 car lengths? Especially in a left hand turn lane, and then they are so slow to get moving, waiting for the car in front to completely go before they move so they end barley making through the advanced left making everyone behind them have to wait for a second red light!
    So frustrating!

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  4. From the 2017 Alberta Drivers Handbook – “Leave enough space between yourself and the vehicle ahead, behind and to either side to stop safely or steer around a possible hazard. If someone is following too closely, and if it is safe, reduce your speed just enough to encourage them to pass. If the person does not pass, create a wider space cushion between you and
    the vehicle ahead.
    When stopping behind another vehicle in traffic, leave enough space so that you could move your vehicle into another lane without having to reverse. The extra space reduces the risk of hitting the vehicle ahead if you are hit from behind.
    This also allows you to move out of the way of a vehicle that may be skidding or slipping on ice behind you.” I was always taught when i stop behind a vehicle, to be able to see the rear wheels of the car in front of me touching the pavement. This leaves enough room if the car ahead breaks down and I need to steer around it. As first at an intersection, I was taught to leave a courtesy space for any potential pedestrians so that they don’t feel crowded or in danger from any one who comes up too fast on me and I need to use that “cushion” of space to safely move or react to a hit from behind and not endanger a pedestrian or kill them.

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    1. Adding to the space infront of the lead car: is the exact same reason that was stated earlier, in case you get rear ended and pushed into the traffic that has the right of way.

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    2. Except when there is visibly 40 cars behind you and no chance in hell 40 cars would slide their distances on dry pavement into your bumper from a full speed impact that far back. Champ. Nice fucking excuse.

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    3. Especially in winter. If some idiot. Doesn’t have winters on and hits ice trying to stop for a red light and hits you from behind and there’s no space…. That’s how we have vehicle pile up.

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    4. Lana Almaeva think again. The person behind you is texting hits you, while you’re stopped at a red. You’re an idiot and didn’t leave space? Guess what, you’re paying for the car you just hit in front of you.

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  5. The OP (and some commenters on here) need to register for driver’s ed. No wonder there are so many tail-gaters and fender benders. Yeesh.

    Things to Google in the meantime: space cushion, following distance, blind spots, etc. Good luck taking the space cushion in front of a semi truck. He probably cannot see you at all. Seriously, Google it.

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    1. Learn to read… OP said…”I am all for leaving a bit of room and not pulling right up on the next person when stopped at the lights. But what is with people who leave a couple car lengths?”
      I think there is a difference between a space for a cushion and “a couple car lengths” …don’t you? Or maybe it’s you that need to go back and learn to drive.

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    2. Thankfully I learned to drive at a defensive driving course. We have to take some personal responsibility and precautions for our own safety when other drivers don’t do the same. Are we going to get there any faster if there is little bit of extra space cushion in front of us? No. Keeping one’s patience behind the wheel is also a skill that more motorists should learn.

      I’ll take my driving record to the bank any day, Connie Nicolaisen Leary. And I will thank all the at-fault drivers when my insurance goes up every year.

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    3. I took drivers ed and was told an acceptable safe space is being able to see the bottom of the rear wheels of the car in front which is about half a car length. Op is talking about people who leave 2 or 3 car lengths in front of them which is ridiculous.

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  6. As for the ones that do it when they are the first vehicle at a red light my guess especially in winter is they do that in case a vehicle hits a patch of ice and slides in front of them.

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  7. I rarely give extra extra cushion but when I do, it is because I know that the person in front of me stopped too far ahead ( into the crosswalk) and if someone is crossing the walk,or a truck makes a left hand turn, the person in front of me may want to back up. Illegal to back up but….some people. So I give extra room. I am accounting for other peoples mistakes.

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    1. You aren’t taking into account the errors of the people behind you. If they hit you from behind and you rear end the person in front, you are liable for the damage to the car in front of you. That’s why people leave space.

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  8. So I don’t rear end the person in front of me if someone runs into the back of my truck. On my motorcycle it’s so the car has a chance to stop and not crush me into the vehicle I’m behind because the government won’t let me filter traffic and use other vehicles to protect myself from rear end collisions.

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  9. People that do this are idiots. No need to leave that much room. People that do this are in a hurry to look at their phones while stopped . And those few seconds it takes to roll up closer interferes with their wanna be Kardashian social media lifestyle.

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  10. Perceptions, sitting high up or low down can cause someone to believe they are closer or far enough away from another vehicle, I see it all the time, it’s typically small people in a car that leave four car lengths in front of them to the crosswalk or car in front of them haha… In the same respect you’ll see retards with poor judgement thinking your 2-3 car lengths behind them is more like 10 inches from their bumper, you ever been brake checked by someone with nothing in front of them and roughly 3 cars lengths behind them, I believe I have, some people have terrible perceptions of distance to and from them. Some idiots get more interested in the “tailgater” and glue their faces to their rearviews and forget how to drive because they think the vehicle 30 feet back is riding their ass. Fucking funny. Trucks always look closer because they are higher up. In the same respect a small car will always look closer to a pickup because of height differences. People just can’t judge distance properly.

    Also in rush hour traffic, if you’re the cunt who thinks stopping far away will allow you to roll up on the persons bumper effectively keeping a distance to what is behind will save you from a rear ending makes you fucking retarded. Get to the light and stop at your distance, if someone rear ends the 30th car at full speed and pushes 29 cars in to your bumper, there would have been nothing you could do anyway dickbag. Get to the light and stop, don’t stop 20 feet away and slowly brake roll brake roll brake roll to the light as a form of entertainment while the light is red. Get to the red or car in front of you and stop, no need to gear the fuck down four blocks away you stupid prick.

    That’s a rant

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  11. I was just in a 3 vehicle pile up and the only reason I didn’t slam the 4th was because I left enough room…
    I’m the only one not in trouble w insurance. 1 car length minimum.
    A lot of ppl cram together, and you never know if you’ll be rear ended.
    And I did take ” defensive driving” and I am a ” hot shot driver.
    Be safe all.

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  12. One time my mother was rear ended and smashed into the car in front of her, which pushed him into traffic. I think you underestimate just how far you can be pushed when a vehicle rear ends you, because you’re not in park and the force will remove your foot from the brake. It is absolutely more than a few feet.

    I always leave more room, while driving and while sitting at a light. Always. My mother was found at fault by the person in front, (the person who hit her was at fault for that end of the accident. But the car who got pushed into traffic was hit by another vehicle and suffered life threatening injuries. It was a huge deal.

    I’m not about to put my own safety at risk to appease the impatience and misguided interests of others.

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  13. This exact thing happened to me this Friday. I missed the left turn light because someone left an obscene amount of room between them and the car in front of them. I’m all for leaving a safe distance but this was ridiculous.

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  14. There are pressure pads in the road at many intersections. If you don’t pull up to the line, you don’t get a light. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve been stuck behind some fool who doesn’t pull up to the line and so does not trigger the light. So frustrating.

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  15. Some of these ppl and the OP should take drivers ed. They teach you to leave 3 car lengths in front when stopped and slowly move up till a car length min is in front of you as cars stop behind you. Reason is is the person behind you slams into you then you have 3 car lengths to prevent you from hitting the car in front. The more cars stopped behind you the less chance you have to move that far, reason why you move up ahead as cars stop. One of the first things they teach.

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  16. As someone who has been rear ended 7 times in 4 years, I’m hyper aware of how much space is between me and the vehicle in front of me. The space I leave gives me enough room to more forward if I see an idiot coming up behind me too fast… Or God forvid, someone hits me, I don’t hit the person in front of me. 6 of the 7 Times I was rear ended, i was stopped at an intersection, either waiting for the light to turn green or to turn left, so it’s not like I was at fault. I’d rather slightly too much space than not enough.

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  17. You are supposed to leave about 6-8 feet between you and the stop line. This allows a cushion in case you are rear ended. So you don’t kill somebody crossing or end up in traffic. This also allows the people turning right to be able to see further down the road.

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  18. In driver training we were taught to pull only as close so you can see the back tires of the car in front of you. This way if you get rear ended it won’t ram your car into the car directlý in front of it and you will not be liable, since you avoid a three or more car pile up.

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    1. That leaves too many variables. With my height and how I sat in my Cavalier I use to be able to see ground 3 feet beyond my hood. Even with the pickup I have now it’s about 5 feet. Both of those are too close.

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  19. My drivers ed teacher (not in Alberta) always taught you should be able to see the bottoms of the tires of the car in front of you when stopped. Seems to be a reasonable distance so I have always used it.

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  20. I wouldn’t complain too hard about the ones behind you that leave so much space. BF had a brand new, not even 2 weeks truck, stopped at a red light, reached to change music and blam! SUV slammed into him and then he hit someone else. With a gap you have less chance of some moron smashing someone into you. May one day be a gift.

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  21. I was taught to keep enough distance (and more so in the winter) in case you need to move to avoid being rear-ended or if it’s icy and someone behind you can’t stop. It may be annoying, but it’s safer and is worth it in the long run.

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  22. Leaving those cushions of space especially in intersections are imperative for icy conditions, but also make effective routes of escape should emergency vehicles need to pass.

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  23. It’s been 20+ years since I wrote my learners test and obtained my license. however, If I am not mistaken here, You’re actually supposed to leave a car length between your vehicle, and the one in front in the event you’re rear ended by some jackass. You should be able to see the tires of the vehicle in front of you without straining from the drivers seat.

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  24. I’m sorry but me and my A plus driving record with no accidents and no minors caused by me, will continue to leave 2 car lengths and be cautious of you impatient drivers speeding and probably on your phones to be at fault for hitting me and hopefully you don’t kill us all.

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  25. One thing I have noticed – not a new thing but definitely more and more in past 5 years.
    People stop in line at stop light – then release brake and roll ahead couple of feet, brake, release & roll again, brake – etc – etc
    WHY ?
    I was in a red light line up today and just for fun I stayed put while vehicles in front of me did this.
    Guess what – a gap of almost 2 car lengths

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